New Powerboard Tyche Desktop design Faster then Ever!

To complete the schematics design, the designer will need around another two weeks.
From the beginning of August we already have in our hands a large part of the new design (Desktop version of Powerboard Tyche motherboard). We have started a fast review thanks to a few members of our association that were able to check the schematics. As usual in Italy, during August companies close for at least two weeks for vacations, so the designing is slowing down. For that reason, the PCB design will start after the middle of September.

We are proceeding faster than ever. We started the “Powerboard Tyche Desktop Electrical Schematics Design” donation campaign on 14th July, and the design itself started at the beginning of July. So after 1 month we already had a good part of the schematic done! Comparing that time with around 12 months that took the Notebook schematics design, now we are proceeding more than 4 times faster!!!

Thanks to the previous work done, our previous design and experience doing Powerboard Tyche Notebook designs and prototypes, the designer can realize the Desktop Design faster, integrating the NXP T2080 RDB design (revision F – year 2023). That design is possible thanks to the 5400 euro of the dedicated Donation Campaign. The old donation campaign to design the Schematics of Powerboard Tyche Notebook was 12600 euro, so now we are spending less than half.

So every past effort and past donations for the Notebook version campaigns have been invaluable and permit us to speed up time and limit the cost to design the current Desktop version.

100.00% Raised
€4,120.00 donated of €4,120.00 goal
39 Donors
Campaign has ended

We remain absolutely committed to making an Open-Hardware Notebook-based PowerPC machine a reality. The desktop version will be the right step to allow more people, spending less money, to soon own, enjoy, and test software on this Desktop version. With a few changes and reintegrating the battery part of our previous Notebook, it will give rise to the Notebook version!

You can check our timeline from 2015 to 2025 and milestones of the project during the years.

NXP will review our Powerboard Tyche Desktop Electrical Schematics Design before we can publish it (completely or partially), as we have received from them Cadence source of the NXP T2080RDB (revision F – year 2023) that the designer has modified and partially integrated with our previous Notebook design (you can see our architectural study published even in the last post). We thank NXP for having provided us this source (revision F) that actually is not published. For that reason we need to have their agreement to publish, with an Open Hardware license, the parts that we take from their source. The Notebook version is published with a CERN Open Hardware license 1.2 version.

Hardware designers in NXP, as our old designer and the new one, use Cadence to design schematics, so that forces us to have the source in Cadence. We are not hardware designers.
The PCB design of the Notebook board was done in Mentor Expedition and the Desktop Design will be done in Mentor Pads.

As we did with our Powerboard Tyche Notebook design, we will convert the Cadence and Mentor Pads sources to Altium and then to KiCad, hoping that the conversion to KiCad has been further improved and allows nothing to be lost.

For us, it is of fundamental importance that our board is Open Hardware (we will certify it as Open Hardware with OSHWA when it will be completely functional) and the prototypes are realized thanks to your support and donations.

OSHWA Certification

The process required to achieve a fully compliant Open Hardware motherboard was carefully analyzed by students of the Law and Policy Clinic of New York University School of Law (in 2019). Thanks to their work, we clearly understood the practical implications of the requirements for the OSHWA Open Hardware certification, and we cross-checked our approach and adopted solutions with OSHWA personnel. An important part of being considered Open Hardware compliant (OSHWA Open Hardware certification) requires that everything that is under our control and used to produce our motherboard should be publicly disclosed, such as schematics, PCB, Gerber-files and all their accompanying information. As a consequence, most of the datasheets of the chips used in our schematics are freely downloadable, as well as the schematics and the PCB design. In case some of the chip vendors ask us to remove technical details that we were not supposed to disclose, we will comply with their requests by removing the published material, but that will not impact our compliance with OSHWA Open Hardware certification, because we can demonstrate that we strived to be as open as possible.

What’s more, we thank NXP for reviewing our design. We had to fill a deep questionnaire that permits them to go deeper into the review. This is an added value that NXP gives to our board: they use their time and resources for us, and we are grateful for that.
In the worst case, they will ask us to mask some parts of the source that are copied from their design. That is the reason why, before publishing the schematics sources, we need to complete it and wait for their review. In this way, we have sped up the design process; we are going on with our design phases without waiting for NXP review. The review only delays the moment in which we start publishing the open source designs.

We are searching for volunteers that would like to improve our Open Hardware license and evaluate if it is better to use a newer CERN Open Hardware version than continuing with version 1.2.

What happens when the schematics design will be completed?
In the middle of September we should have in our hands the schematics design and the BOM that we will forward to the company that will make for us the PCB design and prototype production.
This manufacturer company is already booked and ready for the middle of September to carry out these activities for us. The first feedback that this company will give to us will be the cost estimation to design the PCB and to produce our Desktop prototypes, so at the same moment we will be able to inform everyone about the costs of each phase (PCB, prototypes).

Then they will start the PCB design (phase 2) and order the electronic components needed for the prototype production (phase 3).
After the prototype production, hardware and firmware testing will start (phase 4). With the CPLD itself, starting from the original CPLD source code of T2080 RDB, our Powerboard Tyche Desktop CPLD will be programmed.
As the components and firmware to boot up the board are the same as the T2080 RDB, we can count on a robust boot up.
If more work is needed to improve the CPLD code, it will be done thanks to the same firmware engineer that helped us fix the CPLD firmware of our Notebook prototype, and in that case we will evaluate the cost (phase 4 bis).

Yes, it’s possible to reach the goal to have a working Powerboard Tyche Desktop before the end of 2025, but is needed an extraordinary effort from donors because we depend on donations to cover all the steps that are coming : Schematics Design, PCB Design, Prototype Production and Tests.

100.00% Raised
€4,120.00 donated of €4,120.00 goal
39 Donors
Campaign has ended

Desktop Electrical Schematics Ready! in August.25

We are very happy to inform you that the Schematics Design of our new Powerboard Tyche Desktop is running fast thanks to the new Designer and to the NXP Devkit source design plus our Powerboard Tyche Notebook design. Designer took from the NXP Devkit design ( 2023 version) everything is related to the boot process and many parts from our Notebook design, except what is not needed for the Desktop version, like the Battery part.

You can check all the details regarding what we took from Devkit design and what we took from our Powerboard Tyche Notebook design.

At the end of July, we will provide the schematic design and the BOM to the factory, which will then begin the PCB design based on the schematics. Therefore, by the beginning of August (before the factory’s holiday closure), we will know the cost for the PCB design and prototype production. New donation campaigns will then start for PCB design and prototype production.

Today, July 14th, 2025, we’ve officially launched the donation campaign for the schematics. Before the end of July, we’ll make the down payment for the schematics design. We already have funds collected from the previous donation campaign for the CE certification (of the Powerboard Tyche Notebook), so we can advance money from that fund. However, it’s crucial to boost this new campaign and encourage everyone to donate so we can use fresh funds specifically for the schematics design.

SPECS

  • Form Facttor: Micro ATX
  • CPU: NXP T2080, e6500 64-bit Power Architecture with Altivec technology
    • 4 x e6500 dual-threaded cores, low-latency backside 2MB L2 cache, 16GFLOPS x core
  • RAM: 2 x DDR3 Slots
  • VIDEO
    • PCIE3 x16 VIDEO Card 1
    • PCIE2 x4 VIDEO Card 2
  • AUDIO: C-Media 8828 sound chip, audio IN and audio OUT jacks
  • USB: 3.0 and 2.0 ports
  • STORAGE:
  • NETWORK:
    • 2 x Gigabit ethernet RJ-45 connector
100.00% Raised
€4,120.00 donated of €4,120.00 goal
39 Donors
Campaign has ended

Yes, it’s possible to reach the goal to have a working Powerboard Tyche Desktop before the end of 2025, but is needed an extraordinary effort from donors because we depend on donations to cover all the steps that are coming : Schematics Design, PCB Design, Prototype Production and Tests.

Starting from today (July 14th 2025) you can make your donation, thanks!

Milestones

Phase 1: Actual Campaign Schematics Design : goal 30.07.2025

Phase 2: PCB Design : goal 30.09.2025 [depending on donations collected]

Phase 3: Prototypes Production: goal  30.10.2025 [depending on donations collected]

Phase 4: Prototypes Tests. : goal  30.11.2025 [depending on donations collected]

We remain absolutely committed to making an Open-Hardware Notebook-based PowerPC machine a reality.

As we have already published on our past post we have changed the tactic, focusing on a desktop board first allows us to concentrate on getting the core computing platform stable and functional, tackling the complexities of a laptop form factor (like power management, screen integration, etc.) in a later stage if needed. This is a pragmatic step to ensure we achieve a tangible outcome by our 2025 target. What’s more the Powerboard Tyche Desktop version will be more cheaper than the Notebook version!

We value the experience of making our Open Hardware Powerboard Tyche based on PowerPC from scratch; this is possible thanks to the support of all donors and supporters, and the time and creativity of the activists who have been involved in this project over the years.

Image by Free Fun Art from Pixabay

We ask you to share every-ware this call for support a strong flow of donations to cross the finish line of all donation campaigns to arrive by 2025 with produced, tested and functioning prototypes!

Strategic Change: By 2025, let’s do whatever It Takes to achieve at Least a desktop version!

Hello everyone, we know it’s been quite some time since our last update on November 21, 2024.

We really appreciate your patience! Despite the silence on our end, we’ve seen that our incredible community – both old friends and new supporters – have continued to donate continuously. An infinite thanks to all of you, our amazing current, past, and future donors! Your unwavering support truly fuels our efforts and keeps the dream alive.

Image by Tú Anh from Pixabay

Short story

As we shared in our last post, the work with the previous designer hit a significant hurdle: we just couldn’t get the board to reach the crucial boot stage.

This led us on a search for a new designer, someone with specific skills and experience with PowerPC architecture. We were really pleased to find a talented new designer who was available from the beginning of 2025, who can even rely on an additional person who is an expert in firmware programming. Following our plan, we used January and February to make the big move, getting all the equipment transferred over to this new designer’s team.

We held off on publishing updates because, honestly, we were waiting for that breakthrough moment – the good news we could finally share with all of you. As things were showing quite promising (e.g. improved CPU signals outputs), we had high hopes that this new collaboration would quickly move us past the booting issues. In parallel, we also tried improving U-Boot and led an additional T2080RDB, the development board that was kindly provided by NXP, to one of our collaborators, but due to personal health problems, he can no longer contribute to the project.

Our work with the new designer has been focused on rigorous testing. On April 9th, we saw that the board’s behavior was frustratingly similar to the devkit – it still wasn’t booting. This prompted a dedicated session on April 14th for one last intensive attempt to find the root cause. As part of this deep dive, we de-soldered the Marvell chip, which is the SATA3 controller.

Marvell 88SE9235A1-NAA2C000 Sata 3 chip removal to test Powerboard Tyche

Removing this component was actually something we had already planned to do for the upcoming prototype version as we streamline the design. To help isolate the issue even further, we also de-soldered the Pericom chip.

removal Pericom 6-port, 12-lane, PCIe 2.0 Packet Switch PI7C9X2G612GP

The overall outcome? Despite taking these significant steps, the board still did not boot. It exhibited exactly the same behavior. We were, frankly, quite upset and left without words.

It’s incredibly challenging when you put in the effort, try to simplify things, and the core problem persists. So far, we have spent around 6000 Euros with the newly hired hardware designer, and even if things have improved, showing the expected NXP documented behaviors of the NXP reference development board, after two years with the prototype motherboards in our hands, we still are not able to boot it.

Read more: Strategic Change: By 2025, let’s do whatever It Takes to achieve at Least a desktop version!