New Powerboard Tyche Desktop design Faster then Ever!

To complete the schematics design, the designer will need around another two weeks.
From the beginning of August we already have in our hands a large part of the new design (Desktop version of Powerboard Tyche motherboard). We have started a fast review thanks to a few members of our association that were able to check the schematics. As usual in Italy, during August companies close for at least two weeks for vacations, so the designing is slowing down. For that reason, the PCB design will start after the middle of September.

We are proceeding faster than ever. We started the “Powerboard Tyche Desktop Electrical Schematics Design” donation campaign on 14th July, and the design itself started at the beginning of July. So after 1 month we already had a good part of the schematic done! Comparing that time with around 12 months that took the Notebook schematics design, now we are proceeding more than 4 times faster!!!

Thanks to the previous work done, our previous design and experience doing Powerboard Tyche Notebook designs and prototypes, the designer can realize the Desktop Design faster, integrating the NXP T2080 RDB design (revision F – year 2023). That design is possible thanks to the 5400 euro of the dedicated Donation Campaign. The old donation campaign to design the Schematics of Powerboard Tyche Notebook was 12600 euro, so now we are spending less than half.

So every past effort and past donations for the Notebook version campaigns have been invaluable and permit us to speed up time and limit the cost to design the current Desktop version.

57.61% Raised
€3,111.56 donated of €5,400.00 goal
25 Donors
23 Days Left

We remain absolutely committed to making an Open-Hardware Notebook-based PowerPC machine a reality. The desktop version will be the right step to allow more people, spending less money, to soon own, enjoy, and test software on this Desktop version. With a few changes and reintegrating the battery part of our previous Notebook, it will give rise to the Notebook version!

You can check our timeline from 2015 to 2025 and milestones of the project during the years.

NXP will review our Powerboard Tyche Desktop Electrical Schematics Design before we can publish it (completely or partially), as we have received from them Cadence source of the NXP T2080RDB (revision F – year 2023) that the designer has modified and partially integrated with our previous Notebook design (you can see our architectural study published even in the last post). We thank NXP for having provided us this source (revision F) that actually is not published. For that reason we need to have their agreement to publish, with an Open Hardware license, the parts that we take from their source. The Notebook version is published with a CERN Open Hardware license 1.2 version.

Hardware designers in NXP, as our old designer and the new one, use Cadence to design schematics, so that forces us to have the source in Cadence. We are not hardware designers.
The PCB design of the Notebook board was done in Mentor Expedition and the Desktop Design will be done in Mentor Pads.

As we did with our Powerboard Tyche Notebook design, we will convert the Cadence and Mentor Pads sources to Altium and then to KiCad, hoping that the conversion to KiCad has been further improved and allows nothing to be lost.

For us, it is of fundamental importance that our board is Open Hardware (we will certify it as Open Hardware with OSHWA when it will be completely functional) and the prototypes are realized thanks to your support and donations.

OSHWA Certification

The process required to achieve a fully compliant Open Hardware motherboard was carefully analyzed by students of the Law and Policy Clinic of New York University School of Law (in 2019). Thanks to their work, we clearly understood the practical implications of the requirements for the OSHWA Open Hardware certification, and we cross-checked our approach and adopted solutions with OSHWA personnel. An important part of being considered Open Hardware compliant (OSHWA Open Hardware certification) requires that everything that is under our control and used to produce our motherboard should be publicly disclosed, such as schematics, PCB, Gerber-files and all their accompanying information. As a consequence, most of the datasheets of the chips used in our schematics are freely downloadable, as well as the schematics and the PCB design. In case some of the chip vendors ask us to remove technical details that we were not supposed to disclose, we will comply with their requests by removing the published material, but that will not impact our compliance with OSHWA Open Hardware certification, because we can demonstrate that we strived to be as open as possible.

What’s more, we thank NXP for reviewing our design. We had to fill a deep questionnaire that permits them to go deeper into the review. This is an added value that NXP gives to our board: they use their time and resources for us, and we are grateful for that.
In the worst case, they will ask us to mask some parts of the source that are copied from their design. That is the reason why, before publishing the schematics sources, we need to complete it and wait for their review. In this way, we have sped up the design process; we are going on with our design phases without waiting for NXP review. The review only delays the moment in which we start publishing the open source designs.

We are searching for volunteers that would like to improve our Open Hardware license and evaluate if it is better to use a newer CERN Open Hardware version than continuing with version 1.2.

What happens when the schematics design will be completed?
In the middle of September we should have in our hands the schematics design and the BOM that we will forward to the company that will make for us the PCB design and prototype production.
This manufacturer company is already booked and ready for the middle of September to carry out these activities for us. The first feedback that this company will give to us will be the cost estimation to design the PCB and to produce our Desktop prototypes, so at the same moment we will be able to inform everyone about the costs of each phase (PCB, prototypes).

Then they will start the PCB design (phase 2) and order the electronic components needed for the prototype production (phase 3).
After the prototype production, hardware and firmware testing will start (phase 4). With the CPLD itself, starting from the original CPLD source code of T2080 RDB, our Powerboard Tyche Desktop CPLD will be programmed.
As the components and firmware to boot up the board are the same as the T2080 RDB, we can count on a robust boot up.
If more work is needed to improve the CPLD code, it will be done thanks to the same firmware engineer that helped us fix the CPLD firmware of our Notebook prototype, and in that case we will evaluate the cost (phase 4 bis).

Yes, it’s possible to reach the goal to have a working Powerboard Tyche Desktop before the end of 2025, but is needed an extraordinary effort from donors because we depend on donations to cover all the steps that are coming : Schematics Design, PCB Design, Prototype Production and Tests.

57.61% Raised
€3,111.56 donated of €5,400.00 goal
25 Donors
23 Days Left

Prototypes ready, let’s proceed to test them.

Finally, the three prototypes are ready as you can clearly see from the pictures below.

The resulting cost of each prototype resulted in 1200 euros (without VAT) higher than what was initially planned due to the global shortages of electronic components that have skyrocketed prices of some important chips. So, more donations are needed to fund these 4392 euros more (1200 x 3 + 22% VAT).

Powerboard Tyche, bottom side.
Powerboard Tyche, top side. The visible biggest gray chip is the CPU NXP T2080 Power Architecture CPU.

Now the Hardware Tests stage has started, but prior to that we still need to solder the HDMI connector that has arrived too late to be included during the production phase.

Soon, our Open Hardware motherboard called “Powerboard Tyche” will be inserted in its notebook body chassis for starting the multiple hardware tests.
Below, you can see a picture of the old dummy PCB used for testing how to fit in the notebook.

Slimbook Eclipse Notebook
The external view of the Notebook body

The notebook specifications are the following:

  • CHASSIS: Slimbook Eclipse notebook case 15,6”
  • CPU: NXP T2080, e6500 64-bit Power Architecture with Altivec technology
    • 4 x e6500 dual-threaded cores, low-latency backside 2MB L2 cache, 16GFLOPS x core
  • RAM: 2 x DDR3L SO-DIMM slots
  • VIDEO: MXM3 Radeon HD Video Card (removable)
  • AUDIO: C-Media 8828 sound chip, audio IN and audio OUT jacks
  • USB: 3.0 and 2.0 ports
  • STORAGE:
  • NETWORK:
    • 1 x Gigabit ethernet RJ-45 connector
    • WiFi connectivity
    • Bluetooth connectivity
  • POWER: on-board battery charger and power-management

Powerboard Tyche PCB source

This work was made using Mentor Expedition and it is ready and uploaded into our repository with all reported issues fixed, including issue number 5, the last one corrected . Thanks to our collaborators we are able to export this work using Altium form so the next days we will publish it and we will try to convert it to Open Source Kicad format ( and probably loosing something in the conversion process) . In our older post we have give more details regarding the PCB sources.

Eureka! Here we have the Board layout! 15 days to donate 3660 euro left.

We are happy to share to all the donors and followers the Board Layout of our PPC64 Notebook Motherboard!!!

The design of our board layout is meant to fit inside the Slimbook Eclipse body. The PCB Design which is currently being worked on using Mentor Xpedition.

In September 2020 we have published on our gitlab repository the Orcad source file with the latest version (v0.6) of the Electrical Schematics, you can go more deep on these board layout starting from the Orcad source.

Open Hardware PowerPC Notebook Board Layout for Slimbook Eclipse Body – TOP
Open Hardware PowerPC Notebook Board Layout for Slimbook Eclipse Body – BOTTOM

The tentative deadline for Phase1B is 2th November so there are two weeks left to donate the remaining 3660 euros. If we will reach the goal, the PCB with SI bus simulation should be ready by the end of November.

In this case in December 2020 we will work on production of the Prototypes together with the Prototypes Donation Campaign.

We have to give a name to the motherboard, suggestions still remain open few days more on our forum

PCB design updates and updated components list

As we stated in a previous article, we have already contracted ACube Systems and the PCB design work has started. This post is a first report about the work in progress in relation to the PCB design.

These days, the designer is analyzing the Pericom Switch with the direct support of Pericom personnel.

The Pericom PI7C9X2G608GP is a PCIE Gen 2 Switch that provides one upstream port supporting x4 or x1, and 4 or 5 downstream ports that support x1 operation. This chip has a Power Dissipation of 1.2 W.

In our mobo the PI7C9X2G608GP is essential as it allows to connect one 4x PCIe 2.0 controller of the NXP T2080 CPU with four 1x PCIe chips/cards: M.2 3G/LTE card , M.2 WiFi card, 1x Renesas USB3 Controller and 1x C-Media Audio chipset.

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PCB for a Happy New Year!

Orcad Source Schematics Published

At the end of August of 2019 we published the first version of the schematics in pdf format. Then, in October we uploaded the second version and after that the 13th of November we released the Orcad source, accomplishing what we promised.

Schematics Source in EDIF published and ready to be converted to KiCad

Now we have exported it even to EDIF format, to make easier for new volunteers to convert it to Kicad Format. To convert from EDIF to Kicad we have found edif2kicad tools  https://github.com/svn2github/edif2kicad but we are sure you will find other tools or even you will be able to create a new one

OpenStack Debian 10 PPC64 Big Endian created

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